Well, it´s hard to answer that question. As from the appereance, yes, it is a ´83 works bike. Some part looks to a particular rider but, i think it is may build out of parts we changed on the bikes.
You may have to know that we calculated the live time of ALL parts. Some of the had to be changed every GP, some of them after some running hours. For instant, a crankshaft and a crankcase had the longest "running time" as well as a rear swingarm. Main chassis frame may had changed after 2-3 GP´s, if no damage was found.
So, what to say now? All parts (we could recollect) after the GP-Season where destroyed at the end of the year (without the exception of 1983, we solve a lot of parts for André Vromans).
Another yes is to the bike of the winning champion. HRC granted a "show bike" to him, with no internal parts in the engine. But if the mechanic of the champion may spared (??) a new or used crankshaft, who knows, a new rebuild engine appereared.
The bike above on the picture, i can´t identify. If you can tell me the chassis number and the engine number, i may know to who we supplyed the parts (or bike) but i can´t tell who rebuild the bike afterwards and may sold it. That´s (for me) is the ugly side of racing.
Whoever, good for the lucky new owner of the ´83 works bike. Enjoy it and.... he is a smart guy, he took off the cover of the waterpump. If he hadn´t, all of the magnesium inside would have disapeared.

En gros, même un des responsables du HRC ne peut etre sur de l'origine... Sauf si on lui donne des n° de chassis ou de moteur  !!

Oh non! Vite mes cachets!  🤭

Tu peux faire un "copié-collé" et ensuite direction Goggle Translate !!

C'est une top machine 👍  👍  ,une vrai HRC 😍  😍  et c'est une belle histoire 👍   j'aime.

Gino Maroc a écrit :

Well, it´s hard to answer that question. As from the appereance, yes, it is a ´83 works bike. Some part looks to a particular rider but, i think it is may build out of parts we changed on the bikes.
You may have to know that we calculated the live time of ALL parts. Some of the had to be changed every GP, some of them after some running hours. For instant, a crankshaft and a crankcase had the longest "running time" as well as a rear swingarm. Main chassis frame may had changed after 2-3 GP´s, if no damage was found.
So, what to say now? All parts (we could recollect) after the GP-Season where destroyed at the end of the year (without the exception of 1983, we solve a lot of parts for André Vromans).
Another yes is to the bike of the winning champion. HRC granted a "show bike" to him, with no internal parts in the engine. But if the mechanic of the champion may spared (??) a new or used crankshaft, who knows, a new rebuild engine appereared.
The bike above on the picture, i can´t identify. If you can tell me the chassis number and the engine number, i may know to who we supplyed the parts (or bike) but i can´t tell who rebuild the bike afterwards and may sold it. That´s (for me) is the ugly side of racing.
Whoever, good for the lucky new owner of the ´83 works bike. Enjoy it and.... he is a smart guy, he took off the cover of the waterpump. If he hadn´t, all of the magnesium inside would have disapeared.

En gros, même un des responsables du HRC ne peut etre sur de l'origine... Sauf si on lui donne des n° de chassis ou de moteur  !!

Petit complément de l'histoire ne changeant rien à la chute. Les pièces, dont la durée de service était déterminée étaient remplacées selon la périodicité prévue. Toutes les pièces étaient détruites en fin d'année sauf en 83 où un lot fut vendu à André Vromans.  Le champion d l'année pouvait recevoir une machine de salon mais dont le moteur était vide. On peut penser qu'un mécanicien a remonté une machine complète avec des pièces neuves ou d'occasion.

lpz a écrit :

Je ne peux que  vous inçiter a lire tout le topic concernant cette RC sur  vital mx . Les ricains en savent plus  que nous  c'est sur vu que walther fleck leur a gentiment répondue  👍 

den's a écrit :

salut!

oui, c'est très interressant à lire, malgré mon mauvais anglais..

j'adore la phrase du début du post..!

"This bike appeared on a French forum last week end, his new owner asking details about this "CR"500 he'd just bought as he didn't know anything about mx bikes. So it was war on the topic and the guy stopped posting."

"it was the war on the topic", c'était la guerre sur le post..!!   🤭
c'était plus le guide vert, mais le guide guerre..!!  ou le guerre vert..

pff.. quelle imagination le den's ce soir..!!

bon, on a survécu au cataclysme, on est toujours tous des potes ..!! 

et puis, c'est quand même une Yam qui a gagné..!!  😄 

den's

S'rais pas étonné que la source US soit noyautée par des potes à Donald, non ni celui du Guide Vert, ni le canard de Disney, mais l'autre.

Gino Maroc a écrit :

Tu peux faire un "copié-collé" et ensuite direction Goggle Translate !!

Effectivement ça marche vraiment bien! Sphinx! 👍  👍 

Ah, parce que c'est là que tu situes l'esprit, toi ?  🤭  🤭

Ahhhhhhhhhh c'est de là que çà  viens"pèter des flammes".... 👍 

Donc, on en est où? Vendue?  🤔  😴 

J'suis en tractation
Je voudrais pas qu'elle parte aux States
Je met le paquet
J'echange contre une bête de course une tueuse
Un 125 can am  🙂

ça peut marcher... Sur un malentendu!  👍 

bôf ,....
Je vous la laisse j'ai déja une RC dans le garage ....mais a 4 roues  😄  😄